Tuesday, April 20, 2010

What if men had to breastfeed?

  • Feast countdown = 45
  • Sunday night's craving = Pretzels and M&Ms, the classic combo
  • Sunday night's craving distraction = Researching campaign donors
If it's not already apparent by now, I'm fascinated by gender differences and their role in society.

Specifically, do men and women inherently, by nature, behave or think in different ways?  Or is it mostly chalked up to the way we're raised and the social norms of the time?  A classic example is men crying in public: hypothetically, they may be as apt to do this as women, but society has long taught them to suppress these feelings, so it's hard to know what would happen in a social vacuum.

I talked about this idea in depth with several guy friends one time.  Surprisingly, I was the one who defaulted to the argument that women are inherently more sensitive, nurturing, emotional, etc., but all I could really use to back it up was a woman's physical qualities.  My thinking was that women have babies, babies immediately rely on their mothers to survive, so women naturally take up the role of caretaker.  And then I threw in the whole bit about hormone levels.

Looking back, I find my position pretty flimsy.  I didn't even begin to account for the many women who choose not to have children, can't have children, or haven't yet had children -- does this mean that they are all inherently less sensitive and nurturing?  As for hormones, modern contraceptives have allowed us to control estrogen levels and its effects almost entirely, not to mention the fact that women who have had their ovaries removed do not report a sudden change in behavior.

No, I started to think more seriously about the notion that men and women may not be as inherently different as we assume -- except for that minor issue of physicality, which may be the sole reason that women have been subjugated under men throughout the majority of history.  The woman is weaker, bears the children, rears the children, so she stays in the hut.  But if there was a way to control for some of these physical differences, to split up the work of child-rearing, I was curious to think of how it would affect the world.

Then it hit me -- what if men had to breastfeed?

(Yes, this is Daniel Craig apparently wearing a bra)

Before you write this off as Shel Silverstein meets Three Men and a Baby, just follow me in this thought experiment for a moment.  Imagine a world with two main assumptions:
  • Women and men share completely in the child-rearing process
  • Neither sex is physically superior to the other
The exercise lends an interesting perspective on leveling the gender field, primarily by exposing our largest biases...

Let's start with the family.  A woman becomes pregnant, she carries the baby for nine months, and after delivery, she hands the baby over to Dad for the next year of feeding.  Suddenly, Mom is free of immediate responsibility and simply supports Dad as he keeps the little one alive.  Dad can't stray far from the house without a babysitter, and he grows intimately in-tune with the baby's every need.  In this new scenario, Mom and Dad are equally critical to the baby's survival and development.  On an even broader scale, bad fathers are less likely to bolt, knowing that their baby can't live without them; teen fathers now share the full burden with teen mothers; children grow up with a strong connection to both parents; and children see Mom and Dad as equals.  There's no predominantly male boss of the household.

Next, we look at the workplace.  Who's to say that Jane can't be CEO instead of John?  Both of them have to sacrifice long periods of time to have kids, so it's not a give-in that one gender will end up staying home more often.  Women study the same fields as men in school, set the same kinds of goals, and climb to success in the same way, because no one is encouraging either sex in particular to pick a "family-friendly" career path.  White collar executive suites are filled 50/50 with men and women, employees respond similarly to male or female bosses, and no company feels the need to create women's "empowerment groups".

Then comes modern society as a whole.  Women are just as likely to be breadwinners and major leaders.  There is no stigma associated with a strong, dominant female whose husband may stay at home with the kids -- in fact, there's no stigma for strong women at all.  For example, wealthy, successful females on Wall Street are targeted with the same eagerness as male bachelors.  A young girl beating a boy in the school math bowl or tennis match is seen as no big deal among peers.  Female U.S. Presidents are run of the mill.  Similarly, boys are raised no differently than girls (trucks and easy-bake ovens are interchangeable), men are comfortable showing affection and uncertainty out in the open, and they have no problem serving under a woman.  Parents don't shelter their daughters more than their sons.  On a darker note, women don't worry more about walking alone at night, and people fear female criminals just as much as males.  

Finally, we examine the ripples back through history.  Starting with the earliest civilizations, men and women have equal authority within the family and among peers.  Like people of varying races or ethnicities, they look different, but their abilities and behavior are indistinguishable.  Religions form around both male and female figureheads, marriage requires both parties to present dowries, kingdoms and property fall to the eldest child (regardless of gender), women fight alongside men in wars, and if gender discrimination exists at all, it subjugates men just as often as women.  A woman's contributions to society are no greater or no less than a man's.

Exercise over.

This is the closest I can get to picturing a gender-neutral world.  In my mind, this is what it would feel like to erase a troubled past and to treat the opposite sex exactly the same, despite any physical differences.  I readily admit that the assumptions are ludicrous, but the outcomes, in my mind, are not entirely so.

I don't want to get too philosophical or pedantic, but it's an interesting game to play.  At least it makes you wonder, are our differences just limited to body types?

7 comments:

  1. What's your stance on your role (as a female) in regards to raising a family? Just curious, knowing how you were raised.

    Hello, by the way! I love reading your blog, Mags! Very interesting and thought-provoking. AND I google-mapped Denver to Rolla...we're (only) 13 hrs apart now! :-)

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  2. You made my day, Aims -- it's so good to hear from you! I love that you're living in CO now and becoming a true mountain junkie.

    You raise a very apt question, because I've lately been challenging the idea that men or women have distinct, predestined roles within the family, unlike what I've grown up knowing. I'm just not convinced that the sexes are that different from the outset (no surprise :), which begs the question why we even need family roles.

    Why can't both parents share in raising the kids, maybe taking turns between each other's careers? Who's to say that the husband can't have a more nurturing personality by default and then spend more time with the kids, or vice versa? And with decisions, why does there have to be an arbitrary head of the household? Like any good relationship (or even democratic governance), I think it's makes a lot more sense to have a balanced give-and-take system.

    Honestly, I'm not sure how I'll react to having kids someday, but I do know that I want my kids looking to their parents as true equals in every respect.

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  3. Now, you must know that I'd HAVE to comment on this, right? :) Please bare in mind that my lack of sleep and two glasses of cheep wine will definitely play a role in my response.

    "are our differences just limited to body types?"
    Possibly, but don't be so quick to want to dismiss these differences. They are powerful and important. This is an entirely different soap box for another time. The question you could have posed in your exercise instead of "what if men could breastfeed" but "what if men could bear children". There are many instances where the father could from the very beginning play a completely equal role in child rearing - cases of adoption and foster care, as well as mothers that have complications breastfeeding or simply choose to bottle feed exclusively from the moment the child is born. Ultimately, it is up to the parents to create the equality within the home.

    My bigger concern is not just to focus on equality for mothers in the workplace and society, but also for our country to place a higher value on fathers (or life partners). Until our country grants fathers (or life partners) equal paternity leave, (or any leave at all!!!) then it's impossible to have equal roles at the outset. Below is a info regarding this issue worldwide and where the US stands in comparison (from Columbia University' http://www.childpolicyintl.org/issuebrief/issuebrief5.htm)

    Paternity and Parental Leaves
    Increasingly, especially among industrialized countries, leaves are being extended to fathers (paternity leave) or parents are being given the option of which parent can take a leave (parental leave). Four countries- Denmark, Italy, Norway, and Sweden - have recently extended their paid parental leaves and mandated that at least one month of this addition be a "use it or lose it" option for fathers. In Austria, three years of extended leave is offered, only if the father takes at least six months of the leave before the child turns three. Twenty-one countries provide a supplementary parental leave; in 13 it is paid, in seven until the baby is 1 ½ -3 years old. In all these countries, the policy covers adoption as well. The only difference in the policies is the adoption leave is limited to the post-childbirth period and counted either from the day the child arrives in the parents' home, or the day parents leave to collect the child, if from another country.

    If you're still interested, here's another link from The Institute of Women's Policy Research - http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/parentalleaveA131.pdf

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  4. Love the thoughts. I have three main reactions:

    First, I agree that it's interesting to flip the tables and picture men rearing children instead, but that doesn't get to the root of my question -- what does it mean to level the physical playing field? By making men and women equals in child-rearing tasks (not one parent mostly responsible), you can then think through whether gender discrimination would still exist.

    Secondly, I'm torn regarding your statement that differences in body types are significant and can have a powerful impact on behavior/thinking. I tend to think these differences more affect the way we're told to behave than how we inherently behave, but full disclosure, I can't find any hard science to back up either side. The perfect lab test would be to raise girls and boys in a controlled environment where they're treated/taught/influenced no differently, and observe whether consistent gender divides occur... we can only wish.

    Lastly, I really like your point about paternal leave policies. All hypotheticals aside, greater equality in parenting definitely depends on how easily fathers can be involved, not just how easily mothers can achieve a work/home balance.

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  5. The male and female bodies are quite different. Starting immediately from conception, the genome of the male and female are different. In the 6-7th week of gestation gene expression is different and different reproductive organs are developing. by the 10-12th week, completely different sets of hormones are being produced and secreted. during puberty, a whole other set of hormonal and developmental processes are taking place. From the onset of puberty, the human female is reminded every 28 days of her biological ability to reproduce. and while estrogen is considered the "female hormone" it is only one of several hormones that are regularly secreted in a tightly regulated, cyclical pattern (prolactin, oxytocin, progesterone, DHEA, etc etc). If fertilization should occur, tremendous changes take place in the female body. The spine changes conformation to accommodate the fetal load; the uterus' musculature increases; the amount of blood in the female increases by 40%, etc, etc. Bottom line is, the human male and female are very different.

    However, to address your issue of a true gender neutral world, it is not possible to the degree that you propose. From conception to adulthood, the differences in the male and female affect the way in which the brain, personality, and body develops. These differences shape the way in which these people view the world and the way in which the world views them.

    Perhaps a good example of what i'm talking about is the human's predilection for sugar and salt. If evolution is disregarded, it would appear as though humans selected these two substances arbitrarily from nature to crave and consider as "delicious". in reality, the rarity of these two substances in nature, coupled with their tremendous nutritional potential and necessity drove our nervous system to evolve to consider sugar and salt as delicious. In the same way, the differences between men and women, both physical and mental differences, have developed from the reproductive imperative. It is in the male's self-interest to reproduce as often as possible, while it is the female's inherent self-interest to not only reproduce, but to conserve bodily resources to successfully bring the fetus to term. I could go on about the differences between males and females, but hopefully by now, i've convinced you that there are inherent differences between men and women.

    As for the hypothetical gender-neutral world, again, it is not possible. There are inherent physical and psychological differences between men and women, and as such, they ways in which humans interact with each other are colored, not only by the lens of each individuals psyche, but also by our primal, instinctive perceptions of each other. To say the humans could somehow treat each other as gender-neutral is to claim that it is possible to separate emotion from experience. The human is designed to connect present physical, chemical, visual, and aural stimuli with past experiences and emotions in order to anticipate and formulate a response. As such, a man sees a woman, has a psychological reaction, and responds accordingly, and visa versa.

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  6. - Yes men and women are inherently, by nature (evolution, god, allah, whatever) are designed to behave or think in different ways.
    -Men and women are both capable of sensitivity and nurturing behavior, but yes, the experience of gestation and parturition are unique to women and as such the emotional and psychological and physical responses are unique to women.

    -As with everything in nature there are degrees of differences and variation within species.

    -Oral contraceptives and hormone therapies don't control estrogen levels. oral contraceptives prevent ovulation by disrupting LH and FSH secretion from the pituitary, and hormone therapies serve to replace estrogen and progesterone. Oral contraceptives are a combination of estrogen and progesterone.

    -The woman is stronger and has a higher pain threshold than men to be able to endure parturition. Men are able to accumulate more lean muscle mass only because of their higher testosterone levels.

    -Men can lactate if provided with the hormone prolactin and oxytocin.



    -Bad fathers will bolt. Bad fathers by definition do not have any regard for their family. New anthropological research shows that ancient civilizations did indeed share in the responsibilities of child rearing, especially those tribes of sub-saharan Africa. Thus there was no predominant male boss of the household. Rather, these tribes operated with egalitarianism. (check out the Tarahumara of Mexico for an example of gender equality)

    "to say that Jane can't be CEO instead of John? Both of them have to sacrifice long periods of time to have kids, so it's not a give-in that one gender will end up staying home more often. Women study the same fields as men in school, set the same kinds of goals, and climb to success in the same way, because no one is encouraging either sex in particular to pick a "family-friendly" career path. White collar executive suites are filled 50/50 with men and women, employees respond similarly to male or female bosses, and no company feels the need to create women's "empowerment groups"."

    -In my opinion, this aspect of modern society is evolving along with changing views on women, child rearing, and fatherhood. There are female CEOs, and more men are more willing to take a more active role in raising a child than before.

    "Then comes modern society as a whole. Women are just as likely to be breadwinners and major leaders

    -Women have always been breadwinners for their family. Even in the early 1900's in the US, it was necessary for those women in lower and middle class families to have jobs in order to provide additional income. In ancient sub-saharan african cultures, women along with men participated in persistence hunts.

    -In my opinion, the modern American sense of the differences of men and women are social constructs that developed from the inherent physical and psychological differences that exist between the sexes. From the Victorian era to puritanism, the "traditional" roles of men and women have been reinforced throughout history. However, I believe that these ideas of traditional roles are being challenged and are evolving. There are regular reports in the news of increasing pay for women in the workplace. There are more women in high ranking political offices than ever before. More women are being admitted to and graduating from top universities. (the Harvard class of 2008 has more female graduates than men). Women being allowed to serve in combat roles in the military is imminent.

    -Women and men have inherent differences, but humans are also able to think and respond rationally. The gender differences will always exist, but the "gender role" is an ever-evolving concept defined by our rationalizations of those natural differences.

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